FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)
Q. Should I preserve the case of English words, like names of languages?
A. You want to have whatever is customary for
names of languages, such as when listed in computer menus. However, you
want to make sure that there is consistent casing for all of the items,
so before making any
changes, be sure to get agreement among all the translators for your
language --
otherwise we'll get a ransom note effect!
Q. What about the warning about parentheses being discouraged in cases such as "(other)"
A. You need to remove "(other)" or the equivalent
from language names. In general, you should avoid using parentheses in
the names of languages, scripts, or regions if at all possible. There
is more information about this in the zoomed view.
Q. How do I go to the zoomed view?
A. Click on the status icon:
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or
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Q. Why is the tool slow?
A. The tool may be slow if many people are active at the same time.
It is also slow the first time you open a page, and especially slow after any
update to the code. Also, when you make changes, it reruns the tests over all
possible items that could be related, which can take some time.
We ask your patience when this happens. If it is preventing you from doing your
work, please sent a message to
cldr-users@unicode.org
(CLDR
Users).
Q. Is there anything else I can do about it?
A. For those items where you can use the "unzoomed view", you can
make all of the changes on the page at once, which saves time. Just remember to
save your changes before leaving the page, or they will be lost!
Q. I tried to zoom in on an item, but no window opened up.
What is happening?
A. When you zoom in, the contents open in another window (or tab).
Unfortunately, your browser may not bring that window to the top, so you may
have to bring that window (or tab) to the front manually. What helps, if you
have a wide screen, is to right-click when zooming the first time, and open a
separate window, then move that window so it doesn't overlap. The same for the
References window.
Q. How are votes weighted and the "best" item
picked?
A. You basically want to get multiple organizations to agree on the
best value. For details on the voting process, see
Resolution
Procedure.
Q. How do I add a reference to a value?
A. First off, you only need references where an
item is contentious -- where you want to point to a dictionary or other
reference to establish that it is the right usage. Unfortunately,
adding references is a bit cumbersome right now. A reference is bundled
together
with a value, so to add a reference to a value, go to the zoom view,
copy the
value to the Change box, and use the pulldown reference menu to pick
the
reference.
Q. But what if the reference is not listed in the
pulldown?
A. Then you need to click on the "Add/Lookup References" link. That
will take you to a page where you can add a new reference (and see all the
details on the others).
Q. In the key, it says that the
red box is a
fallback. What does that mean?
A. The Unicode CLDR data uses inheritance. That means that if you
are looking at English (United Kingdom) (a "sublocale") most of the data
is inherited from English (which contains data for the US), called the
"parent locale". Such data will show up as red. You only need to have different
data in the sublocale where there are important differences in usage from the
parent locale.
Data in a sublocale may be spuriously different; that is, the parent's
data may be perfectly acceptable in the sublocale, but somehow a difference has
crept in. In that case, you should vote for the parent's data to reduce the
gratuitous differences.
Q. But what I see is a funny symbol like
Zxxx?
A. If there is no other translation available, what you will see is
a "neutral" code, typically an ISO code. In cases where there is no such code
available, such as for labels like "Month", then you may see English -- which
needs to be translated.
Q. How do I delete an item?
A. You can only delete an item if you yourself have entered it, and
there are no other votes. Go to the zoom view. You should see a checkbox marked
Delete Item. Click on it and save changes. To remove a spurious difference in a
sublocale, vote for the red
fallback item.
Q. What if I can't delete it?
A. It doesn't really matter much. What is really important is to
make sure the the right item is voted for; so try to get consensus as
described above. If all the alternatives are really wrong, and you really don't
know what the right item would be, vote for the
red fallback item.
Q. What if I want to just try out some changes, but don't
want to affect the data?
A. Everyone can add data to "Unknown or Invalid Language"
(und), so you can try out the Survey tool there without worry.
Q. What if I have questions?
A. You should zoom in on the items you have questions about, and
read the information towards the bottom of the page.
In many cases, even seemingly straightforward translations like the language,
script, and territory names have issues. For example, these may have been
direct translations from ISO standards, which are quite often not the best ones
names for computer interfaces.
If you have further questions, or problems with the Survey Tool, send a
message to
cldr-users@unicode.org.
| Known Bugs- There have been problems with performance. See Vetting View.
- There are spurious Error messages on 4 Chinese calendar dates containing "l" (lowercase L), such as "y'x'G-Ml-d"
- Not all warnings can be removed: see Fixing Errors and Warnings.
- The VettingSummary uses a snapshot in time, and may differ from the current Vetting View for a locale.
- Make sure that you don't leave your work to the last minute; the tool will not work well with too many people at the same time!
- Note: the Survey tool is down for maintainence periodically. At the top of
the screen is a timer; please log out before it expires. If you try to log in and can"t, it may be during one of those periods, so you should wait for 5 minutes. If it is still down, please send a message to your coordinator.
Recently Fixed- Zooming in showing no items
- Vetting View and other views not showing American timezones (Pacific/Mountain/Central/Eastern)
- Some load problems causing slowdowns or unresponsiveness.
- Items with errors, warnings, or votes that you couldn't modify.
Operation- Losing changes when leaving a page
- If you navigate away from a page, but don't save the changes, your changes will be lost. This also happens if there is no activity on the page for a while (like 10 minutes).
- Work-Around: if you've made changes, don't leave a page without [Save Changes]
- Zooming, but don't see new window
- When you zoom in, the contents open in another window (or tab). Unfortunately, your browser may not bring that window to the top, so you may have to bring that window (or tab) to the front manually.
- Priority View Sorting
- In the priority view, the groupings should correspond to the icons: Errors, Warnings, Unapproved Items, Approved Items, Inherited Items. However, the last three sets are not sorted in separate sections. That means that you have to look through all of the last section for problems.
- The title text for the icons should be: the singular of the above term (eg Warning) plus " - click for details"
Navigation- When a side window (references or zoom) is opened, it may not come to the front; or if the user is in full-screen mode, may completely hide the main view.
- Workaround: don't make the browser window full-screen, and have the zoom and references windows both visible (on large screens) or overlapping (on small ones).
- In a forum window, View Item and Reply should be visibly links (eg underlined).
- The Forum messages for an item should be always shown in the zoomed view, at the bottom.
Examples and Help- The CheckDates demo doesn't work with mm:ss.SS
- There needs to be a one-digit day example, to show the difference between EEEE, dd MMMM yyyy and EEEE, d MMMM yyyy
Formatting- The Change text box may overlap the following column (appears to be a browser bug, but we need to compensate for it.)
- The CheckNumbers and CheckDates demos should be inlined in the zoomed view, not requiring extra link click.
- People seem to miss some of the links on the page, like General Instructions at the top right.
- Code Lists and Other Items should be clearer, we call them Sections elsewhere. Perhaps List Sections and Pattern Sections?
- Fields that have a single space (like the French thousands separator) can't be distinguished from being empty. Invisible characters like RLM may be hard to work with.
- There are occasional minor display problems:
- overlapping text
- missing table lines
- There are some confusing messages or UI:
- The coverage level should be grayed during the vetting period, since it has no effect.
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